Where do you get your identity? So, you may now attack the truth once again. Today, Torben has been in prison for over 250 days. Torben and Ronald did say that they felt nothing when they prayed for people who were healed. September 17, 2019 by James Bailey 16 Comments. As for me, I will stand on Gods word and challenge anyone who would do otherwise to bring forth objective evidence that these healings are from God. God is new every morning and so is His Holy Spirit leading. Gods whole plan was to tabernacle with man, and yet the Hebrews wanted Moses to hear from God and they would do whatever God told Moses to tell them to do. He comprehends the sorrow of a bereaved soul. Teaching of every sort exists and is readily available online. Thedude said, 
Andrew JH thankyou for that good news update . Whitney Webb, Prophecy Update 2023: Judgement on the Lukewarm and Great. If we do that then His work brings death to us. These are NOT demon possessed, but they are SURROUNDED and being INFLUENCED AND/OR ATTACKED because of their unrepentant sins, disobedience, and lack of knowledge about HOLINESS AND TOTAL SUBMISSION TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. Barry Schmidt said: I remembered how many times in gospels it says, they came to Jesus to. Or they brought to Jesus a man who. We dont have to make it happen- God will bring people to Jesus IN US if only we will yield to Jesus and let Him use us!!! in a way that made us click together like old friends right away. It very well could be true, but the video itself leaves many questions unanswered. Jesus will outshine all when His servants take their proper place in the kingdom. Torben believes in taking new Yes, Jesus is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow. This is what is fundamentally and pervasively wrong with the religious zealots of today- they are trying to usurp and replace what ONLY Jesus can do IN THEM AND THROUGH THEM. and he says to them depart from Me, you worker of iniquity. Does anyone have any information regarding the heresies of this area so that I may warn my friend? Sadly, it is no miracle. . So I hope we will pray for these brothers that they will be able to stand and remain in simplicity when the enemy comes, that the fear of the Lord would be the beginning of wisdom in every area and situation. In whatever FORM God deems necessary for the people to BELIEVE that He exists and that He is GOOD/can be TRUSTED. They will walk into a childrens hospital and clear it out, even patients who had chemo for cancer will have their hair grow back. The companies were formed over a eight month period with the most recent being incorporated seven years ago in June of 2015. Its not a matter of some are more humble or nicer or more genuine etc, because ALL our flesh has the same susceptibilities and needs to forget what the left hand is doing. A man was in the corner with his shirt off screaming inaudibly at a mirror and writhing about as if he was on fire. Katherine Lehman It is necessary for the natural thinking world to see the supernatural part of God operating through us, because we are all spirit filled and supernatural beings too, and God is also a spirit. The simplicity, the sincerity & humbleness is so refreshing to see. Torben says he is doing what God told him to do, you prove to us that he is not ! We can learn from Torbens mistake by keeping our guards up at all times. their church out of control by the gifted ones.
As an aside, God doesnt need to use any of us to heal anyone. preached. Bringing the traveling road show called WIERDSVILLE into the mainstream of modern church life. Your important statement, `the simplicity of Christ,` leads us to the very first Key. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. Then we have the words ANXIOUS; WORRY; CONCERNED used 21 times in the NT. He doesnt pander to the fallen flesh of man that craves excitement and goosepimples.He does works according to His own will and purposes, to show His love and kindness and authority, to open receptive hearts, etc, but not by way of cow-towing or showing off. Each and every one of us Jesus did a lot of disappearing acts.TELEPORTATION. Cynicism is cynicism and it is unacceptable. Recently I was working at a ladies house and noticed she was enormously overweight and who had breathing assist aperatuses all over her house . Everything was dependent on the Spirits uniting men to God through their faith. I was all ears! I am currently looking for people who got involved in The Last Reformation or with Torben Sondergaard (its leader). He knows the grief of a wounded spirit.
That was 25 years ago and it never went back. Trenton D. Adams said: Lets see a man with no leg, and see that grow out., A healing like that is documented to have taken place in the Azusa street revival in 1908, Excerpt taken from Azusa Street, They Told Me Their Stories
Kathi Pelton that scripture which states that the Power of God was present for Jesus to heal that was how far Jesus humbled Himself He was totally God while on earth but humbled Himself to only act under the Power of the Holy Spirit giving us an example that we should follow in His steps, He (Bill Johnston) explained that very clearly in his sermon, I checked him out earlier on in the year for myself , Another correction: but was performing . Jhn 17:16 NASB They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I believe that Andrews used an unfortunate choice of words in the second post calling those who sincerely wish to fulfill the biblical duty to test the spirits as a Sad Reaction. The Holy Spirit does the preparing of the soil of peoples hearts. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. The roots of christianity are in roman catholicism and there are many man made doctrines that are christianity. Jesus is coming soooooon, His return is imminent. They will do miracles and mighty works like the magicians in the palace of pharoah, when Moses, on the Lords instruction, had his staff turned into a snake. Web1. www.TheLastReformation.com Torben Sndergaard | Orlando How about an ordinary man/woman telling people that they saw and went into HEAVEN and saw all these different many headed beasts and angels and chariots of fire? Teshuva, where Jesus said to leave them alone and forbid them not, I agree. etc. When the crowds saw what Paul had done, they raised their voice, saying in the Lycaonian language, The gods have become like men and have come down to us.And they began calling Barnabas, Zeus, and Paul, Hermes, because he was the chief speaker.The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought oxen and garlands to the gates, and wanted to offer sacrifice with the crowds. I was familiar with sick people, having ministered to them for so many years.
(Psalm 34:8 NASB), What you have been through with your mother has strengthened your faith and established the hunger in you to see this established this healing this fullness of what is promised in the atonement in the world in which you live, Lift him up so that he experiences this practically himself and out of the overflow is overflowing Your Power through him to others, to everyone he comes in contact with , Love you brother, the Lord will link you into a team with others who also have this on their heart in your location wherever He takes you .
Those who are baptized have the ability to live completely above sin. Thank you for the clarification Andrew! Very dissapointing. Roger yes this has been going on perpetually but there are seasons in history where this ordinary supernatural normal hits the mainstream of the populace and other seasons where it wins and is obscured to small pockets. I believe what Torben is doing is just the tip of the iceberg of what is to come. I dont know. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . The Lord commands us to obey Him and God never said we dont have to obey at any point in the word of God. I asked her if me and my apprentice could pray for her. We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! He comes to SHOCK AND AWE! His reply? You know where I think people get this idea.from watching TV evangelists. 
My friends, that is not discernment. I just said, Lord I surrender to Thy will in this household.. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? We have to go forward into the `true,` thing.`. the 3rd sign is being fufilled. Holy Father, KEEP THEM IN YOUR NAME, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. Please give us all another chance and send us out in your name again! Hi Michael WebTorben Sondergaard calling from jail: GUILTY. Ive had no pain since that time. Jon Miltimore WebTorben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. There are other keys but it is good to get used to using one for awhile first. Remembering that the enemy is subtle, counterfeiting the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. WebTorben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. Mena Lee Grebin But some people who saw the video reacted quite badly. The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. The pitfall that the Lord was gracious to show me is a danger that needs to be avoided, its not fear mongering or inappropriate to shine a light on the enemys snares, it is love and concern, not to mention a duty. Everyone needs to be free to be what they were uniquely called and gifted to be. Why are not all of us down at our local shopping malls praying for people? Jesus is the gifted One in us- why should we be defined by a certain gift or let our works be defined by certain gifts when we can do whatever Jesus can do and wants to do in us. Read and KNOW the scriptures people, for the sake of the Kingdom of God and for the sake of your own selves and your families. Praise the Lord for the doers of Gods word a d not hearers only. The gangrene is gone; you are healed. All I can say is that if Paul twice said he feared for the church of Corinth, then it shouId be ok for us to feel similar concern as well when it is warranted. Weve seen enough of the problems. Jesus healed him. Going beyond the person to see what the Lord is doing in & through them. He touched the ear of the servant of the high priest. There may have been those that didnt respond in love and in a true biblical manner to honestly test the spirits, but to generalize anyone who didnt believe the video as true biblical healing as a cynic was wrong to do. It is not a judgment nor an accusation, we have seen so little of the body of Christ functioning in the many various giftings that we dont know the difference any more. All others are imitations as Scripture warns. Why shouldnt the Truth be out there as well? Torben Sndergaard also teaches Holiness doctrine, believing it is possible to live sin-free and that freedom from sin is a product of baptism by immersion. The basis for the healing rooms training, techniques, and charge of admission is not found in the Bible. Dana Jarvis
And it was very stressful. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. Its obvious from these verses that those performing these counterfeit miracles do so under the honest belief that they are doing them in the name of Jesus, but God is clear that they are not. Torben Sondergaard is a self-proclaimed apostle and faith healer from Denmark who claims to receive revelations and visions directly from God. His ministry recently came under attack by the Danish government, which launched investigations by six different government agencies. Dont forget Old testament where the axe head raised up out of the water, and poisoned waters were made drinkable. Its not encouraged by most North American Churches in fact they often teach the opposite so how else is he supposed to show people that, yes, it can and does work like this. Leaving them to hunger and thirst after more. Doves dung represents a past movement of the Holy Spirit, a great revival from the past, but now long dead, that has been denomination-alized in the attempt to keep it alive beyond its time. Hopefully he will be allowed to stay. Pastor Trben maintains he gave the answer (same one that all healing evangelists give): dont stop your medication (until your doctor has verified your healing). [8] Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faith which is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. I have heard the context of that statement explained by Bill Johnson in one of his sermons, He clearly stated in that sermon that Jesus is God and then he said that Jesus didnt perform His miracles as God but as Man, He explained that he was making the point and he was very clear on this in his sermon that we as born again believers can do empowered by the Holy Spirit the same miracles which Jesus completed while He was on earth as Jesus wasnt using His Divinity to perform those miracles but was performed them as a surrendered Man to the will of God, i.e. Amen. Well, after reading about their prophetic training ministry (which is almost identical to Rick Joyners) and reading the SOZO handbook (which is new age mixed with Christianity for Johnsons healing rooms) and many testimonies, I have more than enough to warn my friend. I appreciate what you are saying about being in God`s presence. We are seeing a hunger and thirst for God even though people dont even know what theyre hungry for. WebMichelle Cabada's birthday is 10/30/1969 and is 52 years old.Previously cities included Fullerton CA and Lake Havasu City AZ. I suggest that this same method (seek God, fast, pray for Truth) used by these preachers be used TODAY to come to the TRUTH FROM GOD HIMSELF AND TO HELP OUR UNBELIEF. This genuine move pf God will be marked by a sincer and genuine acceptance of sinners where they are and with all their irreligious lifestyle. The NATURE/FRUIT of God cannot be worked on or achieved by the determination of a person.
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We have to toss out the whole leg lengthening healing as I dont think God would use such a questionable healing in order to show His might to the world. You work so hard to promote the flesh that you think you can discredit or attack anyone who says any trickster can appear to lengthen a leg a half inch. ! 430 talking about this. I find it amazing when you ask to pray for someone, when the Holy Spirit is with you, Ive NEVER had a knock back. But it seems there is a lot of cynicism out there. Sure there will be people who say Lord did we not cast out demons, heal the sick etc. Bob Jones, Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, etc, are all in cahoots with each other. A glory cloud rose up at Johnsons church (there is even a youtube video of it) which many say was Gods glory falling and others showed it to be just glitter ( I think of Gods glory falling in past revivals and before Israel and how it brought their faces to the floor). it deeply grieves me to see people getting so cynical that they The healed man stood in total shock, then started moving his arm and feeling of it with his other hand, awed by the miracle. They could enter unheard the closet of the Monarch, or the Cabinet of the Statesman.
And, do you understand why that might be a bad thing to do? Last point, going back to the Pharisees, it seems to me that Jesus said that sins against the Son of Man would be forgiven but that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wouldnt be. the 3rd sign is being fufilled. He had been criticized about his methods of evangelism. How to Know You Are Going to Heaven Quote.. Trenton Because they have slowly over time been taught and have become habituated to WIERDSVILLE !!!! If he performs miracles and preaches a false gospel of self effort religion, harsh treatment of the body , self imposed religiosity and legalism INSTEAD OF THE FAITH IN THE CROSS PLUS NOTHING THAT MAN IS A WOLF! What I am understanding is that the right hand needs to forget what the left hand is doing, otherwise its a slippery slide away from simplicity down into spiritual harlotry, and turning the simple, holy things and gifts of God into a circus. Required fields are marked *. But many of the same practices are done at Johnsons school as well as Joyners school. I still have a lot on my heart regarding TLR, the kickstarts, etc. Since the whole of the scriptures CONDEMNS BEING FEARFUL, ANXIOUS AND WORRIED, then I would have to say that Paul was of weak faith when it came to the letter he was writing. When the people of faith resort to a charletans trick of claiming to grow legs, when a persons swivel of the hip or stretching forth of their leg makes it seem as though Yeshua is in the ministry of stretching legs out an extra half inch. 1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared I am also sad to report that I knew a man whose wife was dying of cancer. How about this MAGIC TRICK: FINDING A GOLD COIN IN A FISHS MOUTH! How sad it will be ONE DAY AFTER HIS COMING but for many it will be TOO LATE.
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